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UVI Falcon: 30% off, 2 free expansions and $100 of UVI libraries

Postby Guy Rowland » Oct 06, 2017 7:15 pm

So that's 244 Euros. Undeniably a good deal, it looks incredibly impressive and has a good reputation - lots of threads here of happy campers - but I still can't imagine I need it. Anyone fancy convincing me that, in fact, I do?

https://www.uvi.net/falcon

Sale til October 15th.



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Postby wst3 » Oct 06, 2017 7:23 pm

I'm right there with you on this one - it looks cool, lots of folks like it a lot, and yet I just can't build up the head of steam necessary to make the investment, not so much financial as temporal.

So I'll be watching!



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Postby Guy Rowland » Oct 06, 2017 7:43 pm

wst3 wrote:...not so much financial as temporal.

Oh lord yes.


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Postby Raymond_Kemp » Oct 06, 2017 8:36 pm

I would but..................I can't because I already have it and a few of the expansions.
You know I'm a man of few words (unless I'm in a bad mood) so don't ask me to explain why it's worth it.


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Postby Thomas Mavian » Oct 06, 2017 9:26 pm

At Audiodeluxe it is even cheaper, 177 Euros. Without the expansions but still tempting...

Damn, real tempting...

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Postby Muziksculp » Oct 06, 2017 11:06 pm

Have it, but rarely use it.

Don't know if this helps you.


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Postby EvilDragon » Oct 07, 2017 8:18 am

Falcon is a genius tool for sound design. Watch through Dan Worrall's videos, and if that doesn't have you nodding or loosening your jaw a bit, it's probably not up your alley.

My advice would be not to look at it as a replacement to Kontakt. It's an adjunct. A really, REALLY powerful adjunct, with much better (and more) FX, better and more flexible modulation, OSC support, additional synthesis options along with sample playback (virtual analog, FM, plucked instrument physical modeling) and some nifty IRCAM algorithms for timestretching... It's a powerhouse of a different breed.

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Postby Guy Rowland » Oct 07, 2017 8:24 am

Mario, could you point to 1 (one) video of Dan's that shows it at its most unique? I do some sound design of this kind, but it's pretty marginal... if I saw a WOW video of something incredible thats achievable comprehensibly (i.e. the learning curve wouldn't be too extreme), it might tip me.


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Postby EvilDragon » Oct 07, 2017 9:46 am

Honestly, can't really point to just one video... I guess see Advanced Modulation, Advanced Synthesis 1 and 2 videos, and perhaps also Advanced Effects video from the UVI Falcon playlist...

I'd say it'd do you good to watch all of the tutorials as they really cover a lot, and not that much at the same time (Falcon is DEEP). I would liken it to Omnisphere where you can do your own multisampling, except it does some more things Omni just doesn't (IRCAM algos, sliced loops, dedicated 4-op FM and physmod, plus it's not limited to two parts/layers/however you wanna call them per patch). Oh, and scripting. There are some nifty scripts in there, including MPE support. It's a bottomless synthesis pit.

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Postby Guy Rowland » Oct 07, 2017 10:42 am

It looks wonderful, and very clever. But as it went on, I started to hear this:

For me, it's a pass. The tools I have are incredibly deep, and I'm on the road to getting something out of them. I think this would just slow my journey but adding another bottomless pit...



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Re: UVI Falcon: 30% off, 2 free expansions and $100 of UVI libraries

Postby X-bassist » Oct 08, 2017 11:28 pm

Guy Rowland wrote:It looks wonderful, and very clever. But as it went on, I started to hear this:

For me, it's a pass. The tools I have are incredibly deep, and I'm on the road to getting something out of them. I think this would just slow my journey but adding another bottomless pit...

Thanks Guy! I want the "Retro Encabulator", does in come in a Kontakt player version? ;)

I agree with you on this. Too many deep synths to explore already.



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Postby Guy Rowland » Oct 09, 2017 8:41 am

I sorta feel bad posting that video (though it's my favourite on the internet) - it's my age talking. I really don't want to have to learn any new DAWs (unless they are impeccably designed), and I've found that goes for synths. I really am far better to keep learning the tools I have, but in no way does that mean I'm critical of Falcon as a product (oh, except their logo... how have they not been sued by NI re the similarities with Kontakt's?!). How many watching Dan's videos will get anywhere near his mastery of the product, and be able to pull off the tricks he apparently does so effortlessly? In a similar spirit I posted this yesterday on KVR's Avenger thread, full of people complaining that it couldn't do this or that wildly esoteric function:

I want to modulate a sine wave with the partials of an FM sync in harmonic shift mode, matrixed with a granular texture map onto the x axis of the target layer's third envelope but the y axis of the wavetable's inverted deviation from the subharmonic ring modulator. Why no Avenger do this?


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Postby Raymond_Kemp » Oct 09, 2017 11:56 am

Guy Rowland wrote:I sorta feel bad posting that video (though it's my favourite on the internet) - it's my age talking. I really don't want to have to learn any new DAWs (unless they are impeccably designed), and I've found that goes for synths. I really am far better to keep learning the tools I have, but in no way does that mean I'm critical of Falcon as a product (oh, except their logo... how have they not been sued by NI re the similarities with Kontakt's?!). How many watching Dan's videos will get anywhere near his mastery of the product, and be able to pull off the tricks he apparently does so effortlessly? In a similar spirit I posted this yesterday on KVR's Avenger thread, full of people complaining that it couldn't do this or that wildly esoteric function:

I want to modulate a sine wave with the partials of an FM sync in harmonic shift mode, matrixed with a granular texture map onto the x axis of the target layer's third envelope but the y axis of the wavetable's inverted deviation from the subharmonic ring modulator. Why no Avenger do this?

No problems here. I managed it on my Diana rig :)



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