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Newfangled Audio - Elevate: "Mastering Limiter with a Brain"

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Newfangled Audio - Elevate: "Mastering Limiter with a Brain"

Postby tack » Oct 07, 2017 1:27 am

This is an interesting looking multiband limiter. Plugin Discounts has it for $80 right now as an introductory price. 30 day demo is available. (iLok required.)

https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/ ... ate-bundle

And a review:

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Postby wst3 » Oct 07, 2017 1:54 pm

I've been playing with the demo - this is the first multi-band limiter that has grabbed my attention in a long time. I'm a big fan of filtered dynamics processors, the Ozone Multi-band compressor is probably my favorite, and the Waves L-whichever is a close second - or was.

I don't need any more plugins, but this one might just empty my wallet a little. Very tempted.


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Re: Newfangled Audio - Elevate: "Mastering Limiter with a Brain"

Postby tack » Oct 07, 2017 3:14 pm

Playing myself. The transient emphasis does pretty nice things. I wish the plugin had an undo button.

Out of the box it's pretty hefty on CPU though. My realtime meter went up 15% after loading the plugin. Reducing the bands down from the default (maximum) of 26 helps immensely.

I've not used a multiband limiter before so I really have no clue whether 26 bands is overkill. What do you think, Bill?

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Postby wst3 » Oct 07, 2017 4:30 pm

Multi-band dynamics processors are pigs - there is that<G>!

The optimal number??? Geez, I don't know, I do quite well with three or four most of the time, but the temptation to have more (and finer) control is tempting. Really tempting!

My machine finds this plugin to be a bit of a resource hog, so one of the things I need to do before the trial expires is play around with fewer bands. Which should not be a huge deal I suppose.

Look at it this way - when I had a stereo crossover driving a pair of compressor pairs I thought I was king of the world. When I later adopted a gently used broadcast processor (Durrough DAP) I thought I'd hit the jackpot.

Then along comes software.

If you aren't used to 26 bands of control (and the real kicker would be independent control over 26 bands for each channel!!!!) then I don't think you are going to miss it. Machines will get more powerful, at which point you can start to ratchet up the number of bands you use.

Still, even at around $100 this feels a little bit like something I'd like but don't necessarily need, since I'm going to have a difficult time using it to it's maximum effect. On the other hand, band count is not the only metric, and it sounds good, and it has some nifty features, and, and and!

I will probably make the investment because I think it will let me shape a stereo mix nicely. But I have to back to my other multi-band tools to see if it really offers me a big advantage, once again not so much for the money, but for the time I KNOW I'll lose learning to use it.

Other tools that may or may not be appealing to others here:
- Izotope Multi-Band Compressor - sadly it doesn't appear to be available any longer, and the version I have is locked to Sound Forge V9, so I will be replacing it when that stops working entirely (still a 32 bit application).

- UAD Precision Multi-Band Compressor - I like it, but sometimes it is just a little too precise? That might sound silly, and it is always likely I haven't figured out how to use it properly.

- FabFilger Pro-MB - tried it, really liked it, but didn't/don't need it until I can't use the Izotope plugin, or at least that was my reaction at the time.

- Brainworks - just about everything they make is cool, and I think they have a couple multi-band dynamics processors, but I haven't really looked.

- Waves - one of the first developers to really take advantage of multi-band processing, many of their compressors and limiters offer the feature, and they work well, are relatively easy to understand, and sound good.

And don't overlook the fact that you can get some pretty cool results using a cross-over feeding multiple compressors or limiters!


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Re: Newfangled Audio - Elevate: "Mastering Limiter with a Brain"

Postby Raymond_Kemp » Oct 07, 2017 5:30 pm

Not to mention DMG Audio's Limitless, Oh! I did.
and MSpectralDynamics


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Re: Newfangled Audio - Elevate: "Mastering Limiter with a Brain"

Postby tack » Oct 07, 2017 5:58 pm

Limitless did look very interesting but I couldn't convince myself I needed it. And at about $200 USD it's quite a hefty hit to the wallet compared to Elevate at $80. But I imagine if I already had Limitless I'd be much less interested in Elevate.

Looks like there's a memory leak with the VST version of Elevate of about 6MB every time you hit play on the DAW transport. That's a pretty serious issue that's quite easy to test for, so that reflects rather poorly on their quality control.

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Re: Newfangled Audio - Elevate: "Mastering Limiter with a Brain"

Postby J Rod » Oct 08, 2017 3:06 pm

If you upgrade from Equivocate (free) to Elevate the price is 63.59$.


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Re: Newfangled Audio - Elevate: "Mastering Limiter with a Brain"

Postby PhJ » Oct 09, 2017 9:06 am

tack wrote:Looks like there's a memory leak with the VST version of Elevate of about 6MB every time you hit play on the DAW transport. That's a pretty serious issue that's quite easy to test for, so that reflects rather poorly on their quality control.

Well, if I'm not mistaken, it's a one-man operation.
He started his own company after years of working for Eventide ; they gave him a bit of visibility for the launch of this product.
Haven't tried this demo yet, but the 'Match-EQ' function in the free EQuivocate I know I'll use.
(never really understood how to do that with the voxengo EQ that's bundled with Cubase :-) )



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