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by Quasar
May 04, 2020 11:14 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

Of course that last bit is part of the Serenity Prayer, which is something I've learned to appreciate. My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer about six years ago, and died from complications due to the cancer about two and a half years ago. Really since the diagnosis I've had to lean on the the f...
by Quasar
May 04, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

I think you may be missing the point - and it is subtle, I think... This is a substantive response, thank you. Yes, you are correct that there is a factual component (the policy changes and new activation software) and then a subjective, interpretive component (whether these changes are ethically j...
by Quasar
May 04, 2020 6:36 am
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

Quasar, that’s an unnecessary insult. Hyperbole is fine, veiled insults not so much imo. That you have faith in your absolute rectitude as to your assessment of the situation doesn’t make you any more.right or logical than anyone else....it just makes you determined and inflexible. Yes, it's critic...
by Quasar
May 03, 2020 11:42 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

(sigh). You are right, no matter how good the end result, we can all fault them and feel righteous. I’m out. That's cool. It's not like anyone ever responds to my specific points anyway. It's because you can't without agreeing with me, and you don't want to do that. It's still terribly difficult fo...
by Quasar
May 02, 2020 10:50 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

I think it is always a bit troublesome to judge people's intention s when you don't know them, so I tend only to focus on their actions so your 1) may or may not be true. It may be it didn't occur to them that customers would think it unfair. I know that when I worked part time for EW Doug was some...
by Quasar
May 02, 2020 7:54 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

Well I certainly wouldn’t call the teenage immoral, but if I was his dad I would tell him it was wrong and ground him and delete the software. Fair enough. Native Instruments needs to get the same message in the form of a public outcry and a boycott. Unlike you, I give them no credit for merely res...
by Quasar
May 02, 2020 5:55 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

Sophistry, IMHO. But yes, someone who pirates then repents and buys the software deserves some credit, as long as they don’t repeat the behavior over and over. Sophistry? I just said the exact same thing you did, with a slightly different emphasis. But whatever... ...A simple yes or no question for...
by Quasar
May 02, 2020 4:16 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

Sophistry, IMHO. But yes, someone who pirates then repents and buys the software deserves some credit, as long as they don’t repeat the behavior over and over. Sophistry? I just said the exact same thing you did, with a slightly different emphasis. But whatever... ...A simple yes or no question for...
by Quasar
May 02, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

...That said, it isn't in my view hyperbole to say that someone who believes that it is ok to taken use that which they don't purchase hasveat best a self-serving moral blind spot. And yes, a company who announces a policy that hurts its customers and then rescinds it because of outcry, is still en...
by Quasar
May 02, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

It's hard to avoid the phrase "software piracy" just because it's so ubiquitous with a well understood meaning. And I don't get a sense of minimization about "piracy" vs "theft." In fact, I seem to recall the term originally being used as a hyperbole to elicit a more g...
by Quasar
May 02, 2020 2:02 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

The use of hyperbole, while it may not make the argument wrong, damages the credibility of the person making it to those who are more thoughtful. Debate team 101. This isn't a high school debate team. You're either intelligent enough to examine the issue on it's own merit or you are not. And Jay, i...
by Quasar
May 02, 2020 1:45 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

And that answers that. I do not accept the argument that software should not be protected because it has already been stolen. Huh? How does this sentence make any sense whatsoever? By definition, if it has already been stolen, then it is NOT protected. This is like saying the prison cell is empty b...
by Quasar
May 02, 2020 3:27 am
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

I am genuinely curious @quasar - do you find it equally problematic that people steal software all the time? No I do not. Though I pay for what I use and believe others should do the same, I see the white collar crime of draconian CP to be far, far worse than the software piracy it purports (falsel...
by Quasar
May 02, 2020 2:04 am
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

When people are passionate about something, they tend to speak about it in hyperbolic language. You are passionate about this subject. In my view you use hyperbolic language to describe it. Of course you don’t see it that way because you are passionate about it. I don’t think you’re wrong, nor delu...
by Quasar
May 01, 2020 8:29 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

Sorry I can't take anything you just wrote seriously. Blowing it out of proportion as usual. :D That's okay. Claiming that a POV is "not serious" or "out of proportion", is an extremely common ad hominem tactic used to dismiss the validity of an argument without actually having ...
by Quasar
May 01, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

Well that ain't gonna happen since sales have actually gone up during the pandemic. Amazingly. I'm not surprised. People are stuck at home, and this can be seen as an opportunity by some of us to get something creative done. And over at VIC, the PR coup was masterful, with customers practically can...
by Quasar
Apr 30, 2020 8:39 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

NI would "listen to its customers" and do the right thing about this, too, if only enough people demanded that it be so. Yes, I’ve read your posts about this. I understand it’s a big issue for you and I understand why. For me, I’m reliant on N.i. products to make my tiny living, so it’s n...
by Quasar
Apr 30, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]

It’s not everyday that a big company listens to its customers and reverses course. Kudos indeed. They responded to pressure because they thought it was in their best interest to do so, that's all. They still lied to their offline customers and unilaterally revoked the agreements in place at the tim...
by Quasar
Apr 23, 2020 4:20 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: Cinesamples Abbey Road Upright Pianos discontinued
Replies: 28
Views: 12634

Re: Cinesamples Abbey Road Upright Pianos discontinued

I don't think the marketing claims you will sound like the Beatles (although there are worse things), I view it as an opportunity to use samples from an instrument that has a place in history. At least that is the attraction to me with respect to libraries like The Abbey Road pianos and Piano in Bl...
by Quasar
Apr 23, 2020 1:33 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: Cinesamples Abbey Road Upright Pianos discontinued
Replies: 28
Views: 12634

Re: Cinesamples Abbey Road Upright Pianos discontinued

Lawrence wrote: Apr 23, 2020 12:44 am Oh , that’s an easy one for me. The Beatles! 😀
Any marketing that implies that one can sound like someone else who is famous and successful is an instant turnoff for me. But the creation of Pavlovian associations obviously works, so I can see why they do it.
by Quasar
Apr 22, 2020 6:26 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: Cinesamples Abbey Road Upright Pianos discontinued
Replies: 28
Views: 12634

Re: Cinesamples Abbey Road Upright Pianos discontinued

Okay, here's a VERY quick bash, don't judge me! No quantizing, reverb, mixing. just bashing. 1. You Never Give me your Money-Challen 2.Lady Madonna-Challen Tack (not much tack there, not sure if I'm doing something wrong, will revisit.) 3.Hey Jude- Mrs Mills I like the Challen, Mrs. Mills less so, ...
by Quasar
Mar 20, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products

Some good news from NI's Matt: Hey Everyone, Just a quick update on this. We are making good progress and it looks like we are now focusing on a new offline activation tool which would allow our support to activate all the products listed. I don't have a full overview on how this would work yet but...
by Quasar
Mar 15, 2020 1:35 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: Toontrack Post Rock EZX 67% off this weekend [Sigur Ros studio]
Replies: 4
Views: 3331

Re: Toontrack Post Rock EZX 67% off this weekend [Sigur Ros studio]

I bought this too and at first glance quite like it. "Fat rather than nimble" is a good description. The Original Mix has a kind of plodding heaviness about it that lends itself well to droning or dirge-like approaches... Calm, deep and restrained rather than shrill, and the cymbals don't ...
by Quasar
Mar 13, 2020 6:06 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: Toontrack Post Rock EZX 67% off this weekend [Sigur Ros studio]
Replies: 4
Views: 3331

Re: Toontrack Post Rock EZX 67% off this weekend [Sigur Ros studio]

I do have a very occasional but recurring need to pretend to be Sigur Ros. (Not literally, but you know what I mean: I think the whole 21st century post-rock phenomena is terribly interesting, and Sigur Rose are amazingly good at what they do,) I'm an EZD person, but after a point balk at purchasing...
by Quasar
Mar 10, 2020 3:13 pm
Forum: The Front Page
Topic: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products [NOW FIXED]
Replies: 83
Views: 43062

Re: NI to no longer allow registration of legacy products

Matt from NI has responded, rather than paste it here (because I think this might well be a back and forth situation), start here - https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/ni-stop-activations-on-legacy-libraries.376981/#post-1887475 . They seem all over the place... Typical corporofascist ...