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KyleJudkins
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Re: Hollywood Choirs

Post by KyleJudkins » Dec 06, 2017 12:47 pm

ohh by the way.

"Symphonic Choirs users should not upgrade to PLAY 6 until after the next Word Builder update. Please check back soon."

that's something worth noting. Is it possible to leave play 5 if you download play 6?

http://www.soundsonline.com/play6

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Re: Hollywood Choirs

Post by Ashermusic » Dec 06, 2017 1:46 pm

KyleJudkins wrote: Hopefully it's smooth out some of the touching velocity, but would be most useful is actually making the modwheel do something significant

I'm not trying to pick on you J, you are one of the reasons I dumped a crap ton of money in east west products for my first VI purchase after sample tank.

it was STXL -> EWQL SC. -> 2 grand worth of CCC -> komplete.

You've always been insanely helpful, especially when it came to East-West products for obvious reasons, that's why I felt like this was unlike you
The modwheel switches between dynamic layers and increases/decreases vibrato, although there is not that much vibrato since a poll of Classical composers apparently didn't want it and that is how EW decided to go.
http://www.talkclassical.com/13016-vibr ... horal.html

I am always happy to help people, but I am not willing to spend much time debating people about libraries anymore. Most of them are fine, none of them are perfect. I give my opinions and people are free to assign them as much or little credibility as they choose, but I am not going to spend my time creating examples to convince people.


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Re: Hollywood Choirs

Post by Guy Rowland » Dec 06, 2017 2:04 pm

Ashermusic wrote:The modwheel switches between dynamic layers and increases/decreases vibrato, although there is not that much vibrato since a poll of Classical composers apparently didn't want it and that is how EW decided to go.
http://www.talkclassical.com/13016-vibr ... horal.html.
Oh, that IS interesting, so that example you posted is as vibrato-ey as it gets? I think the original SC got it pretty much right for maximum vib - I've heard one or two libraries go more extreme and it just gets awful, but imo that's going to limit it's usefulness.

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Re: Hollywood Choirs

Post by KyleJudkins » Dec 06, 2017 2:23 pm

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f42rf0mmg145r ... o.mp3?dl=0

It's got something weird going on with some consonants in the stereo field... the S in particular feels like an army of snakes in my left speaker

That's with no reverb

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Re: Hollywood Choirs

Post by KyleJudkins » Dec 06, 2017 2:31 pm

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uq3sgw4uhvdef ... c.mp3?dl=0

that's a little verb + predelay + doubling just to make it a little wetter, using the mod wheel a little to get an idea of the dynamic range.

The thing I liked about SC that is missing in this - is the fact that since velocity meant a lot more, caused variations in dynamics with other layers.

this is one of those cases where you really should use 4 instances of play to get a decent result


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Re: Hollywood Choirs

Post by Lawrence » Dec 06, 2017 6:04 pm

An interesting note-my favorite thing about SC is the Boys Choir, which HC doesn't have-disappointing to me. Legato or no, the tone is excellent. I was asked to do a live school choir with piano accompaniment a few years ago with the kids singing something or other, which WB works well for (specific language not so much):

http://www.ljnmusicandsound.com/2013/le ... dren-sing/
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Re: Hollywood Choirs

Post by KyleJudkins » Dec 06, 2017 7:01 pm

protip: you can double and stack consonants to make them louder and clearer. This is obviously something useful for any EWQL WB library

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Re: Hollywood Choirs

Post by Ashermusic » Dec 06, 2017 7:26 pm

Guy Rowland wrote:
Ashermusic wrote:The modwheel switches between dynamic layers and increases/decreases vibrato, although there is not that much vibrato since a poll of Classical composers apparently didn't want it and that is how EW decided to go.
http://www.talkclassical.com/13016-vibr ... horal.html.
Oh, that IS interesting, so that example you posted is as vibrato-ey as it gets? I think the original SC got it pretty much right for maximum vib - I've heard one or two libraries go more extreme and it just gets awful, but imo that's going to limit it's usefulness.

Not necessarily I didn't use the modwheel much. But yes, it has less max vibrato than SC.

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Re: Hollywood Choirs

Post by soundbylaura » Jan 02, 2018 1:44 pm

Anders Wall wrote:
Dec 05, 2017 10:57 pm
soundbylaura wrote:I'd better go download Play 6 before I turn the sub off!
Do you get to keep v6 when you turn off the sub. or will it/you revert back to v5?

Best,

Anders
I can report that this in fact did NOT work. My CC sub expired 12/14/17 and I just fired up an old PT session from last summer and Play will not load. I assume this is because I have 6, no longer have 5, and my sub is expired. I deleted 6 and re-installed 5 and everything is working (so far). I'll probably buy 6 eventually but I need to get paid for some gigs first. Christmas is expensive :)

Bummer, but it was a good try!
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